Of all of those Big Questions axial to abstract concepts that beleaguer life, the creation and everything, the realms of canon and religions and the attributes of deities abide to fascinate. Opinions breed in books, articles, videos, conversations in confined and pubs, and in actuality anywhere and everywhere two or added bodies are in proximity. There’s the pro side; there’s the anti-side. There aren’t too abounding fence-sitters. I’m still in the anti-camp as the afterward $.25 and pieces illustrate.
*Christian theist: God is the answer!
Sceptic: So how do you KNOW that God is the acknowledgment instead of (fill in the blank)? The acknowledgment is you don’t KNOW and you can’t KNOW! If you don’t KNOW the answer, again your acknowledgment should be “I don’t know”, not “God”. Added to that, just because you don’t KNOW the acknowledgment (if you stop to accept that to yourself) doesn’t beggarly that God is the acknowledgment by default. For example, I don’t apperceive why archaeologists and historians can’t acquisition any trace of The Exodus. Accordingly God accept to accept asleep or covered up all of the evidence. Why? Because God works in abstruse ways, that’s why! Not a complete satisfactory annual now, is it.
*Religion is an apparition abiding in ambitious cerebration or in ambition fulfilment; our charge or admiration to accost our close fears and insecurities – apery from Sigmund Freud: “The Approaching of An Illusion” (1927). Spot on! Bodies badly adhere on to their assorted religious faiths, adjoin all adherence because they are abashed of the atrocity and abasement of circadian activity and the certitude of death. As one adage goes, “life’s a allegation and again you die”. As philosopher Thomas Hobbes bidding it, activity is solitary, poor, nasty, beastly and short. So bodies seek for some array of claimed security, acceptation and backbone in an indifferent, cold, blah and aimless cosmos. If no one in actuality cares about you (and everybody has got their own set of claimed issues and problems to accord with) again you clamp at the harbinger that is that airy abracadabra man in the sky. You wish a Big Brother to accomplish aggregate arise out all appropriate just the way your parents did if you were a adolescent if they cloistral and looked afterwards you and kissed abroad the aching and the tears if you cried in their lap and consistently comforted you.
*If you accept to lie in adjustment to beforehand your religion, again your adoration is complete crap!
*You accept to admiration how abundant of their adoration Christians ACTUALLY accept adverse are they just traveling through the motions; traveling forth with the army in adjustment to be accustomed by family, accompany and their society; in adjustment to fit in with the majority.
*Religion aboriginal gives you the ache (the aboriginal aberrant stick) again gives you the cure – the afterlife carrot.
Regarding Faith & Belief
*Faith is just ambitious thinking.
*If you say you accept there is a God, there’s no improvement from Doubting Thomas’s added than to accept you try to absolve your belief. But if you affirmation to in actuality apperceive that there is a God, again you accept to go way, way, way aloft absolution and alpha citation complete affirmation that can be afar verified.
*Logic ability be a alleyway to what is true, but argumentation in and of itself is not complete affirmation that what is logically accepted is in actuality true.
*Theists adduce that there are just two kinds of evil. There’s accustomed ‘evil’ (i.e. – disease, earthquakes, drought, etc.) and again there is moral angry breadth bodies abuse bodies and generally innocent animals and the ambiance (i.e. – paedophilia, kidnapping, blackmail, rape, littering, etc.). However, theists calmly overlook two added categories of evil. Firstly, there’s religious angry – bodies harming bodies in the name of their god (be it God or Allah, etc.) and by god there’s been an abominable lot of that array of evil. Secondly, there is angelic angry or God’s angry and you don’t accept to apprehend complete far into the Bible to acquisition examples, examples like The Flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, the 10 plagues, the acceptance of slavery, genocide, beastly and animal sacrifice, atrocious and abnormal punishments like stoning to afterlife accouchement or absolution afar bears on kids. Bodies can be angry but by god, God is their role model.
*Why be acceptable if you can just be forgiven?
*No amount what declared moral absolutes you beforehand (i.e. – annihilation is wrong), I’d action the animal ability and acuteness can arise up with a book that justifies a abuse of that declared absolute. In the case of murder, there’s self-defense; war; basic punishment; aborticide in assertive circumstances; benevolence killing / afterlife and scenarios breadth the act of killing one innocent saves the lives of 5 added innocents (The needs of the abounding outweigh the needs of the few, or the one – Mr. Spock.)
Regarding the End Times
*The End Is Nigh: 50 AD – any day now. 100 AD – any day now. 250 AD – any day now. 500 AD – any day now. 750 AD – any day now. 1000 AD – any day now. 1250 AD – any day now. 1500 AD – any day now. 1600 AD – any day now. 1700 AD – any day now. 1800 AD – any day now. 1900 AD – any day now. 2000 AD – any day now. 2017 AD – any day now.
Regarding Heaven & Hell
*Anytime, or about anytime a Accurate Christian Believer gets cornered by agnostic argumentation / acumen and can’t convulse out of the cardboard bag they accept taken ambush in, they generally resort to, and arise out lashing, arresting out at the agnostic with acute threats like “you’re traveling to bake consistently in Hell”; “your body is now accursed for all eternity”; “I achievement you adore your abiding torment” or as Maude was decumbent to say, “God will get you for that”! That’s not in actuality the able way to acknowledge if you lose an argument.
Regarding the Bible
*”The Bible said” is in actuality some human(s) said, and bodies say an abominable lot of things that accept no base in absoluteness for a accomplished array of reasons, some innocent; some not so innocent. The Bible (as able-bodied as added angelic books) was accounting by bodies for bodies and any quotations therein are arguable at best aback I’ve yet to see accurate that there was anyone aback again demography autograph and autograph down the words of acumen of this or that Biblical character, including declared abnormal characters. On the added hand, works of fiction are abounding of author-invented dialogues and monologues.
*Here’s addition Biblical oops. In Genesis 1: 11-12 & 29, God gives us all plants and seeds that are acceptable to eat and to bulb as approaching plants that are acceptable to eat. Wrong, for alas, not all plants and seeds are acceptable to eat and to bulb (and again eat the consistent plant). So God says plants and seeds are good; complete convenance suggests that assorted plants and seeds can end up burying you six anxiety under. Yet addition Godly oops.
*Though it seems to be broadly arise to the contrary, boilerplate in Exodus do I apprehend breadth the afterlife of the firstborn (i.e. – the tenth plague) was belted to children. It would accept that anyone of any age who happened to accept been the firstborn got zapped by God. (Reference Exodus 11: 5; 12: 12; 12: 29; and 13: 15).
*Variation One: Why would anyone in their appropriate apperception put any array of believability into the Bible? I beggarly it was accounting over abounding hundreds of years; bags of years ago; by bodies who abide in actuality bearding / alien with ambiguous education; abrogation abaft no aboriginal antecedent material; ultimately cobbled calm and re-cobbled calm by differing committees with differing faiths and agendas and opinions; translated and retranslated with translations of the translations; cogent tales that would be appealing absurd even by avant-garde science fantasy standards.
*Variation Two (adopted from “The Agnostic Experience” TV Show): The Bible is just a accumulating of abandoned books for which we accept no originals, accounting by bodies we can’t annual and we weren’t even abiding who wrote what or even a lot of of it. So how can you use the Bible as an ascendancy for something (i.e. – God) that’s supernatural?
*Variation Three (also adopted from “The Agnostic Experience” TV Show): The Bible is just an old book, accounting by alien people, of alien origin, with alien dates, none of which is confirmable. There’s no abreast affirmation alfresco of the Bible itself that corroborates any of it and yet this is acceptable to altercate multi millions aloft millions that abracadabra happens.
*The Bible is true! Source: The Bible! Every chat in the Bible is accurate and it’s accurate because the Bible says so. How can you altercate adjoin that! [Thanks to Jaclyn Glenn.]
*It’s a rather sad actuality that not all Christian Accurate Believers are acquainted of the actuality that the Bible wasn’t accounting originally in English!
Regarding the Exodus
*Here’s some affidavit why the Biblical Exodus is a absolute nonsense. According to the Bible, 600,000 men (not including women and children) larboard Egypt for the Promised Land. If you yield into annual women and children, I’ve apparent estimates that up to two actor ‘slaves’ larboard Egypt, accompanied by birds and livestock (Exodus 12: 37-38). Now let’s accept the adventure was about the aforementioned from avant-garde day Cairo to Tel Aviv. If you go as the babble flies, it’s about 400 km, but that cuts beyond water. It you arch arctic out of Cairo to the bank again chase the coast, it’s about 625 km. If you arch NE out of Cairo until you hit the bank again chase the coast, it’s about a 500 km journey. Why chase the coast? Able-bodied you can’t in actuality get absent if you hug the coastline, befitting the Mediterranean Sea to your larboard as you coin ahead. Sooner or after you’re traveling to hit the Promised Land. Further, even if you airing just one km a day (heck, you could clamber on your hands-and-knees or even on your abdomen and accomplish one km a day) you’d accomplish the Cairo – Tel Aviv adventure in beneath than two years. And tens of bags of added people, nomads, accept beyond the Saini barren in canicule or weeks after any trouble. That abandoned puts the 40 year Biblical adventure in the wilderness in the totally-made-up category, abnormally if you accede that according to the Bible, God was arch the array from Egypt to the Promised Land as a “pillar of a cloud” by day and as a “pillar of fire” by night (Exodus 13: 21-22). Maybe God didn’t accept a map or didn’t anticipate to hug the coastline. In actuality God allegedly advisedly chose to beforehand His bodies via the continued avenue initially branch SE (Exodus 13: 17-18). No agnosticism if His Chosen Bodies knew in beforehand that He was arch them up one acutely continued garden path, He ability accept gotten the average feel analysis – and about did – and who could accusation them for cogent God breadth to go and what he could do with Himself if He got there.
Anyway, if the 600,000 men started off on the Egypt to Promised Land adventure individual file, and acceptance for 1 accent break amid them, able-bodied 600,000 metres equals 600 kilometres so the aboriginal in bandage would accept accomplished the Promised Land added acceptable as not afore the endure one even larboard Egypt! Of advance maybe they didn’t biking individual file. Still, that assorted aloft ‘slave’ army would accept taken up in actuality a cogent area.
Now the breadth of a amphitheater is according to Pi times the ambit squared. If anniversary of the 600,000 males we apperceive about requires almost 10 aboveboard metres of amplitude (actually about a lot of anybody would appeal way added than just 10 aboveboard metres of claimed space) again all 600,000 would absorb almost an breadth of 6 actor aboveboard metres. If you crisis the numbers, the mob would accept active a amphitheater with a ambit of 1.382 km or a bore of 2.764 km (don’t overlook there was no “up” as in multistory barrio to abate the breadth in catechism – everybody active arena level). That’s a ample area!
Further to that point, you can’t altercate me that 600,000 additional bodies on the move wouldn’t leave abaft any debris (i.e. – torn ceramics and torn / exhausted accoutrement and added non-organic refuse); wouldn’t accept active their asleep – those who died on the adventure (burials aback apparent by erosion); and larboard abaft those millions of bivouac residues (which could be carbon dated). The barren ambiance of the Sinai Peninsula should aswell accept preserved amoebic stuffs like accouterment and artefacts like abandoned copse implements. The capital point is that any citizenry calculation 600,000 additional (up to conceivably two million), even a drifting population, will leave abaft archaeological traces. Archaeologists accept accurate abundant hunter-gatherer tribes 1/1000th the admeasurement of God’s Chosen Bodies as accompanying in Exodus.
And added yet to that, one cultural aspect of the animal action is that bodies like to leave their mark (i.e. – Kilroy was here). Graffiti is not a avant-garde phenomenon. So if you accept a bandage of the abundant army calculation some 600,000 plus, again you should apprehend to acquisition some associated graffiti (i.e. – up the pharaoh; aureate beasts rule, OK; Moses is a jerk; Joseph loves Mary; where’s the avenue sign; are we there yet?). Yet I’ve never heard of any annual by age-old or Biblical historians award and advice the graffiti consistent from The Exodus.
And breadth are the charcoal of the aboriginal Ten Commandment tablets which were torn to $.25 by Moses (the jerk) as accompanying in Exodus 32: 19? Are they still there? Were they ‘shoplifted’ as souvenirs? Did they even in actuality abide at all?
So in conclusion, based on the aloft as able-bodied as for lots of added affidavit (i.e. – there’s no absolute analysis from age-old Egyptian texts that verify The Exodus; and of advance the angelic of holies, the Ark of the Covenant has vanished into the Twilight Zone – how convenient), I can abandoned achieve that The Exodus is just a plan of absolute fiction – 1% history and 99% fiction. The actuality of the amount is, if any complete determined affirmation had anytime been activate that complete the Biblical adventure of The Exodus, it would accept been front-page account and in actuality accepted ability about the globe. It hasn’t – it isn’t.
*One can brainstorm the actuality of a maximally added absolute getting (i.e. – God). However, so the altercation goes, the complete actuality of such a getting would be even added perfect. Therefore, by apperception God, God in actuality accept to exist. But, one can aswell brainstorm the non-existence of a maximally a lot of absolute getting and aback alien absoluteness is added absolute that imagination, again accordingly the maximally a lot of altogether getting is non-existent in an alien reality.
*If God is the a lot of maximally absolute getting possible, again God cannot change because to do so would accomplish Him even added or beneath absolute that He already is which is by analogue impossible.
*It is said that God and God abandoned is a all-important getting who accept to abide afar of all else. All else, all added beings are accidental beings who don’t to accept to, of necessity, exist. Alas, if life, the Creation and aggregate can be accounted for and explained after resorting to God (or any added deity) again God is hardly a all-important being.
*God (i.e. – Mr. Abracadabra Man) is the affecting account which you adjure if you can’t anticipate of any alternative.
*When you get to the point breadth you cannot explain X, your acknowledgment accept to be “I don’t know” and not that I apperceive the acknowledgment has to be God.
*A abracadabra man created the apple and again committed suicide. How analytic is that!
*In the apperception of the Accurate Believer, God has consistently got to be right! If you activate with the apriorism that aggregate God does is about right, again you can circuit any Biblical adventure to fit that preconception.
*God’s attitude is “might makes right”. I accept ability and accordingly I am right. I created you (i.e. – might) so accordingly I can annihilate you (right).
*Is God so anemic and aged that He can’t amount out a way to altercate me of His existence? Allegedly so.
*If God is so adjoin homosexuality, how arise He didn’t do a Sodom & Gomorrah on age-old Greece and in accurate Sparta? Consistency is not God’s average name by any means.
*If God and aggregation (i.e. – Jesus) appeared to the abundant army in the Near and Average East admonition their bona-fides, why did they abort to arise alone to the abundant army in Australia, Polynesia, the Americas, Africa, Asia and Europe? Was God lazy? Or maybe God couldn’t acquisition the time getting too absent and active terrorising the citizenry of His rather baby application of earthbound turf. Conceivably it’s because the writers of the Bible didn’t in actuality apperceive these places existed and accordingly couldn’t accept their fabulous deities arise there! Of advance already these places were discovered, again to accomplish up for that oversight, the Christian Church beatific their assembly to catechumen the agnostic and agnostic citizenry about to their way of thinking. That didn’t plan out all that well, at atomic for the agnostic and agnostic aboriginal peoples. These underlings of the Church, who in actuality had no business to undertake such a task, generally did annihilation but deliver their Christianity, or if they did, did so via what one would accept to alarm rather un-Christian agency and means, like catechumen or we’ll ache you – in actuality we’ll ache you anyway. But these alleged Christians angry out to be generally added absorbed in gold and argent and assets and added riches. In their deathwatch they usually larboard abaft a aisle of afterlife and ache and abolition of built-in cultures to Christianity’s abiding shame. The crimes adjoin altruism committed in the name of God (and Jesus) are allegorical – atomic we forget.
*There is no abreast source(s) bound at the time Jesus (allegedly) existed that mentions him afar from the Bible and that wasn’t even abreast aback the Gospels were accounting abounding decades after-the-fact. Why is there no added even apparent abreast antecedent actual that mentions Jesus? Complete strange.
Regarding Atheists & Atheism
*Atheists are those who accept that no celestial of any affectionate exists – not just God. Atheists don’t accept Zeus exists or existed either. Atheists accept never claimed that they apperceive that no God exists. If an agnostic does affirmation that again they accept fabricated a account they cannot aback up. Even Richard Dawkins has never said that he knows God doesn’t exist, for example. Atheists are acute abundant to apperceive that you can’t prove a abrogating deity. I do not accept that God exists, but I never accept claimed that “God does not exist”. That account would put the accountability of affidavit on me. If it should about-face out that God (or any added deity) exists, I’m added than ready, accommodating and able to absolve my apostolic worldview afore Him, Her or It.
– livestock logic